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Did Imam Ali Give Allegiance to Abu Bakr?

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In relation to the issue of the oath of allegiance of the Commander of the Faithful that is said was taken from him – whether this be something that is verified or denied, and also, this noble personality remaining quiet and not participating in any type of activity of rebellion and not picking up arms to go against (those who stole his rights), and the pleasure and approval of this personality in relation to what had occurred: these are all things that are not established (according to the recorded events of history).

The reluctance of those pure souls (the Companions) and the other great personalities – who in the beginning did not give the oath of allegiance; however, later on (as some people mention) did give the oath of allegiance – and also the large number of people who, in those specific and particular conditions gave the oath of allegiance in a particular way (as has been mentioned in history) is also neither confirmed nor established.

With his sword drawn out of the sheath and with the help and support of his gang, Umar roamed the streets of Medina threatening the people with death and forced them to give their oath of allegiance to Abu Bakr. 

Please note the following points:

1. The belief of the Shia, who are of the People of the Text – through the utilization of the logical and related proofs – is this: the Imamate is a position that one is appointed into by Allah, and after the Prophet, that individual whose persona possesses all of the characteristics embodied in Islam except for Nubuwwah (prophethood) and who shares in the continuation of the same divine blessings of that personality (the Prophet) in all ways and forms is the one whose Wilayah (mastership) over all affairs of the society must be designated and appointed by Allah the Most High. The Commander of the Faithful, according to the countless texts (ahadith) and other proofs was the appointed caliph and the true Imam, and deviation from him to anyone else – even if all of the people are in agreement over that other person – is not permissible and is a case of: "Giving preference to one whom Allah has relegated low and leaving behind the one whom Allah has given preference to."

Just as the Prophet is not permitted to grant the station or position of prophethood to anyone else, so too the Imam is not permitted to grant the station or position of Divinely-appointed leadership to anyone else. Therefore, supposing that after Imam Ali was refused (the station of caliphate) and then later on, the oath of allegiance was taken from him, or this noble personality – due to events that came up later on (which will be mentioned ensuing) – was rendered helpless to pledge the oath of allegiance, then the true meaning and significance of this sort of oath of allegiance was not achieved by this (forced act), and the correctness of the actions of the other party is not accepted.

2. If the caliphate (of Abu Bakr) was based on the truth, then this would imply that the hesitance of Imam Ali and Sayyidah Zahra (peace be upon them) and a large number of people and revered companions was not proper and that they were not on the path of the truth. 

It is known that there are definite and decisive narrations from the noble Prophet of Islam which state that Ali is on the Truth, and the Truth is with Ali, and these two will never separate from one another. Therefore, if someone says that Imam Ali was not with the truth in this event or did not speak the truth or did not act upon the truth, then he is belying the Prophet.

Thus it is with no uncertainty that we say that Imam Ali, in this event and all other events and circumstances, was always on the truth, and his refusal to give the oath of allegiance was also not the refusal to be on the truth; rather, his refusal was the denial of falsehood.

3. The refusal of Imam Ali and a group of others to give oath of allegiance to the caliphate from the point of view of history is not something that can be denied, and even one of the contemporary poets from Egypt who was known by the title of "Poet of the Nile" in his poems has also admitted this. The refusal (to give the oath of allegiance) was so commonly accepted and indisputable such that in one of the letters that he wrote to Imam Ali, Muawiyah has mentioned this fact and in reply, Ali did not deny that he had not given the oath of allegiance; rather, the rightfulness and legitimacy of his denial and refusal and the oppression that he faced is mentioned in his own words in this writing (to Muawiyah) when he wrote: "You also want to taunt me by saying that when I refused to accept the caliphate of the First Caliph, I was dragged like a camel with a rope round my neck, and every kind of cruelty and humiliation was leveled against me." (Nahj al-Balagha, letter 28)

To summarize our point, not only is there no room for doubt or skepticism that Imam Ali and the rest of the clan of Bani Hashim and a large number of the companions refused to give their oath of allegiance to the caliph, rather, their refusal was known and evident for all to see.

However, if it is claimed that after those harsh and coarse events that took place, Imam Ali and those who supported him gave their oath of allegiance and that their oath of allegiance was by way of their own inward pleasure and their pure heart and intention, then it is not possible to substantiate this (claim), since the hadith (of this event) is a single narration (khabar-e-wahid), and in the terminology of the science of hadith, it is doubtful (mashkuk). In this hadith, many contrasts and irregularities can also be seen, which this point in time is not the place for discussion. Anyway, we are not able to classify their oath of allegiance as an authentic oath of allegiance that would have any basis in the Islamic legislation.

At this point we mention some reasons that IF indeed this oath of allegiance did occur in history, then why it may have taken place.

1. It was seen (by Imam Ali) that to stand up to what had occurred (the events of Saqifah) would not be possible except by resorting to an armed struggle, which was not conceivable, since it would have resulted in an internal war between the Muslims. The condition and situation (that the Muslim Ummah was in) was such that very recently, through the pains and troubles of the Noble Prophet and through the assistance of Imam Ali and others, the seed of true faith and conviction in the Oneness of Allah had just been sown in the hearts of the believers, and an internal war would not have served the cause of Islam. It would be through this act that the very foundations of Islam would be put at in danger and would force the Muslims to stand up in ranks against one another, whose outcome or conclusion would never be reached.

It was Imam Ali who had helped the Prophet in the establishment of this foundation (of Islam). It was through his truthfulness and sincerity and by putting his life in his own hands and through his self-sacrifices at all places and all times from the very first day (that built the religion). His heart throbbed for this religion, and he saw that if the defense of his own self meant the desolation and annihilation of these foundations, then for sure he would choose to save Islam and try to maintain the unity of the Muslims in face of the opposition of the Kuffar and would give this precedence to the adjudication of the truth. This would allow Islam to progress and advance, even though such a progress would be slower and take much longer.

Allah forbid that the religion come to a complete standstill and the movement that the Prophet had brought forth with the help of the people should stop for even one moment (if a war would take place amongst the Muslims) just so the groundwork could be laid down for the advancement of the religion of Islam and in order for the mandate and establishment of the Wilayah and Caliphate of Ali to take root in the future, just as happened later on.

With the passing of time, the truthfulness of the Ahlul Bayt (peace be upon them) and the blunders and mistakes of deviating from the (true) Imam that had been appointed was made apparent, and on their own, the people developed an attraction for the Noble Qur'an and the Ahlul Bayt and the true belief in the Imamate.

The opportunity also arose for the Ahlul Bayt to guide the people to the pure springs of Islam, the teachings of the religion, the exegesis of the Qur'an, and the true religion of Islam with all of its rules and regulations, political teachings, societal and ethical instructions, and guidelines. More important than all of this, the correct divine theological beliefs were conferred to the people.

However, if an internal war had taken place in Medina, then the corruption, deviation, sedition, and revolts that would have stemmed from this act would have put all things in danger of complete annihilation, and it was because of this reason that Imam Ali rejected the advice from Abu Sufyan for him paying oath of allegiance to Imam Ali, and considered this as an act that would initiate sedition and revolt.

2. The second reason for Imam Ali (hypothetically) giving oath of allegiance is that, just as can be deduced from a study of history, this noble personality had fear or concern for the life of himself and that of his family, and this fear or concern was something that Abbas, his uncle, was able to discern. It was his uncle who advocated him to pay the oath of allegiance, since if he was to be killed, then it would be Islam and the Muslims, who at that time were desperately in need of knowledge and enlightenment, who would have been in disadvantage and loss.

It was in such a circumstance in which it was not possible to have recourse in force and also one in which complete submission was also not in the best interest to deal with the situation that Imam Ali was very careful and critical (in how he dealt with the situation).

This noble personality, by choosing the path that he did, fulfilled a very heavy responsibility that was upon him; he exposed the truth, and at the same time, observed what was best for Islam in its entirety. His precious soul, which was ready to sacrifice its self in the path of Islam, was also protected, so that his blood would not have been shed uselessly simply to affirm the power of truth, and so that the fire of revolt, through which all things are scorched, would not be lit, and so that the opportunity (of Imamate and leadership of the community) whose acquisition was expected in the future would not go away.

In summary, Imam Ali acted according to the testament that was left by the Prophet and did not even cringe in carrying out the will by the amount of the head of a needle. The arena or environment that would cause the feelings or emotions of any brave, courageous, powerful person to be stirred or stimulated were all witnessed; however, he did not perform any act that he should not have performed, nor did he utter any words that should not have been issued. He acted with complete knowledge and by observing and weighing all angles of the situation.

However, all of these conditions and situations prove the truthfulness of Imam Ali and his desire for Islam and his acting not for his own sake. It is clear that this noble personality was completely annihilated and drowned in the Truth, and that which was important to him and had any value to him was Islam, the endurance of the code of Islam, and the interests of the Muslims. 

In the conditions that he was put in, neither his staying quiet nor giving oath of allegiance by force and through coercion would give any credence to the rightfulness of the state of affairs at that time. Such an oath of allegiance would not absolve anyone of their religious responsibility, nor would it pardon anyone of their code of conduct.


Ayatollah Saafi Gulpaygani is a Marja Taqleed of the Shia world. He lives and teaches in the holy city of Qom.


Editor's Note: This article is the first of many questions on a variety of religious topics that were answered by Ayatollah Gulpaygani and translated into English by Shaikh Saleem Bhimji. The entire series is available online at al-mubin.org
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Ali K: ..
Its unthinkable that a man like Imam Ali (as) would simply hand over the caliphate to a man like Abu Bakr.
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December 08, 2009
S. R.: Unfactual, Uninformative and Unreasonable
There are NO references, NO support from Quranic text or Hadith to prove what the 'scholar' has written is right. Such a unfactual article may only entice those who do not possess enough knowledge to deduce what is right through their own thinking and reason.

Anas Ibn Malik (may Allah be pleased with him) related, once the Prophetic Companions said,
"The curse of Allah the angels and the whole people is upon whoever reviles my companions.” Reported by Ibn Hajar AI-Haithami in Majma' Al-Zawa'id.

The writer shamelessly disregards the teachings of the Prophet (P.B.U.H.) by writing;

"With his sword drawn out of the sheath and with the help and support of his gang, Umar roamed the streets of Medina threatening the people with death and forced them to give their oath of allegiance to Abu Bakr." This in itself is enough to prove the lack of credibility of the writer and the article itself. (I didn't even refer to countless of other resources I have that prove insulting the companions of the Prophet P.B.U.H. is a Major Sin - a 'scholar' if not the average muslim should be aware of atleast that much).

Contrasting statements made by Shiahs:

"Abu Bakr and Umar were agents of Iblees." (Hulyat-ul-mateen, mulla baqar majlisi).

Proven Sahih Hadith:
"Allah has selected me and picked out my companions. From among my Companions, I have ministers, helpers, and relatives by marriage. Thereby, whoever disparages them entails the curse of Allah, His angels and all the people. Allah will not accept their deeds on the Day of Judgment.” Reported by Ibn Hajar AI-Haithami in Majma' Al-Zawa'id.

"Allah! Allah! (Keep the thought of Allah) concerning my companions. "Do not take them as a target" (for your obscenity or charges) after me, He who loves them, loves me but he who hate them, hates Me, and he who offends them, offends me and in turn offends Allah and he who offends Allah, Allah almost takes him” Reported by At- Tirmidhi.

I am also pretty sure you will claim the Hadith are fabricated as usual. However I do not believe that Allah (S.W.T.) would allow the Prophet (P.B.U.H.) to have so-called 'agents of Iblees' as his companions. Ali (R.A.) respected Abu Bakr and Umar (R.A.) was not against them and honoured them during his life. If you truly respect him you would consider this. Ali (R.A.) was delayed in giving his allegiance because he was busy with the funeral arrangements of Fatima (R.A.). If he truly thought Abu Bakr (R.A.) didn't deserve the Caliphate he would have voiced out or fought for his Islam - but he didn't because he had Hikmah and knew who Abu Bakr (R.A.) would be a good caliph
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December 26, 2009
.: ^ misleading
There is plenty of evidence that Imam Ali was mistreated by Abu Bakr and Umar after the Prophet's death. Furthermore, the 'companions' you claim are so great just were lucky to be living around the Prophet. According to Sunnis, simply seeing the Prophet is enough to be a companion. We have higher standards than this silly view. Furthermore, you have nothing from Quran to prove all the companions are good. At best you probably say Allah was pleased with those who swore allegiance under the tree, but even this only covers one moment in time. It says nothing about what they did afterwards.

Even if Abu Bakr and Umar did good things, that is cancelled out by their later sins, just as Iblees worshiped for 10,000 years but that didn't matter because he disobeyed Allah. This is the Qur'an my friend. Such a situation is not surprising. It was not only the case for people who claimed to be companions of the last Messenger, Muhammed (peace be upon him and his family), but those who claimed to be friends of previous prophets as well. This is what happened with Jesus (peace be upon him) and Moses (peace be upon him). Many of the prophets even had wives and family members who earned Allah's curse. So is such a thing surprising if it happened with the last Prophet as well?

Here is one thing that Umar did, which by itself was enough to earn punishment:

Sahih al-Bukhari Hadiths: 9.468 and 7.573
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:

When the time of the death of the Prophet approached while there were
some men in the house, and among them was 'Umar Ibn al-Khatttab, the
Prophet said: "Come near let me write for you a writing after which
you will never go astray." 'Umar said: "The Prophet is seriously ill,
and you have the Quran, so Allah's Book is sufficient for us." The
people in the house differed and disputed. Some of them said, "Come
near so that Allah's Apostle may write for you a writing after which
you will not go astray," while the others said what 'Umar said. When
they made much noise and quarreled greatly in front of the Prophet, he
said to them, "Go away and leave me." Ibn 'Abbas used to say, "It was
a great disaster that their quarrel and noise prevented Allah's
Apostle from writing a statement for them.

Here's another one:

Reference: Sahih Muslim, Chapter of "Kitabul-Wasiyyah" in section "Babut-
Tarkil-Wasiyyah", 1980 Edition, Arabic version (Saudi Arabia), v3,
P1259, Tradition (#1637/21)

Ibn Abbas said: "Thursday! And how tragic that Thursday was!" Then Ibn
Abbas cried severely so that his tears flowed to his cheeks. Then he
added Prophet said: "Bring me a flat bone or a sheet and an ink so
that I could write (order to write) a statement that will prevent you
people to go astray after me." They said: "Verily the messenger of
Allah is talking no sense."

My friend, some so-called Muslims are so extreme in praising the companions that they even believe that the Prophet made mistakes like speaking out of his desire or speaking 'nonsense' (see above) when surah 53:3-4 says that "he does not speak of his own desire but it is a revelation sent to him". So Umar and others there engaged in a clear and complete act of kufr. He actively tried to prevent the Prophet from giving his guidance because he said, "the Quran is enough for us". Do you think that the Prophet didn't even think of setting up a system of appointing the caliph but his companions were clever enough to devise such a thing?

By the way, you seem to think that we are hiding our views on Abu Bakr. However, we are actually very open about how these two betrayed the Prophet's teachings. Agents of Iblees? Please, that is not a serious enough accusation. These two were far worse. Imam Ali in fact did speak out against him but they had him dragged out of his house on the end of a rope. If you read Sermon 3 of Nahj al Balagah, this is clear. Furthermore, this event is well known in the histories and also in Tareekh at-Tabari, a Sunni history.

It is enough that the so-called companions Talha and Zubair fought against Imam Ali. If they are really all promised paradise as you claim, they would not be fighting wars against each other. Such an idea seems a bit fanatical rather than what the Quran and hadiths say.
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December 26, 2009
Re:S.R: Ignorant, misguided, baseless,
You are quick to attack the evidence pointed out by the scholar. However, yes just as you have questioned the sources mentioned as evidence, you should look into the credibility of the companions you so wholeheartedly defend. YES, your Hadeeths AND THE sources quoted are all fabricated and at best questionable.To question what Imam Ali (A.S.) was "busy with" at the time of the Prophet (S.A.W)'s burial is blatant ignorance. Imam Ali (A.S.) was entrusted with the Divine responsibility of looking after the funeral arrangements of the Nabi (S.A.W). Instead of pledging allegiance with the Prophet's cause, and following his instructions, Umar and his band of thugs were too pre-occupied with their own causes. They were so power hungry that they failed to attend the funeral of the Prophet (S.A.W), the same Prophet to whom they made false promises to. If you know your history, you will remember that the Prophet made his followers pledge Allegiance to Imam Ali (A.S.), go read the events about what occurred on "Ghadeer-e-Khum", A VERY FAMOUS EVENT that occurred around the time of the KHUTBATUL-WIDAH (as you may infamously recall). Now please don't pull the famous excuse of "Ghadeer-e-Khum doesn't exist", because all Muslims believe in it. Moreover, Imam Ali (A.S.) doesn't need the Caliphate (as you mistakenly assume), it was HIS DIVINE RIGHT. Abu-Bakr and Umar both knew that, yet they still went ahead and stole it. Abu-Bakr and Umar were able to get their ways with the Caliphate throught the use of brutal force. Imam Ali (A.S) was renowned for his SKILLed abilities, courage, exemplary personality, and luminescent presence. He didn't need to voice his protest at the injustices that Abu-BAkr and Umar decided to embark on. Imam Ali (A.S.) did not need "to voice his protest", he could've taken his rightful property from Umar and Abu-Bakr within far less than the blink of an eye. Don't forget this. Furthermore, he did not "voice his protest" because he was following what the Prophet (S.A.W)'s instructions were to him prior to his passing from this world. Imam Ali (A.S.) stood for the rights of the oppressed, the poort and those suffering from injustices, at a time when Umar and AbuBakr were out plundering the wealth of the people and harrasing the innocent. Look carefully at their characters before quoting or questioning the grace of Imam Ali (A.S.). Try as you may, your efforts to find a flaw (God Forgive me for using this word) in the character of Imam Ali (A.S.) will always FAIL. This is my absolute gurantee to you. Anything you read in this books to contradict this is to question the Quran, and the teachings of Allah and THE Prophet (S.A.W), something which makes one a Mushriq.
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January 15, 2010
zulfiqar: ...
Hi !

This is a very complicated issue . As far as qadeer khum is concerned it depends on the interpretation of the word " mawla" and one must also consider the occasion at which the prophet said that " when the people were stealing "booty" and he simply asked people to listen to him .

The interpretation may " vary" due to individual understanding . This does not
clearly state that the prophet had chosen " ali" to be his succesor . When the
prophet was ill according to various sources in the sunni text he had asked
abu bakr to lead the " prayers" . This does not establish that he had given him
the " khilafat" but we feel that this was a great honour bestowed to him for
leading the prayers of the whole unified muslim " ummah"

We further dont believe in the concept of "infallibility" of imams . In muslims
the generation comes from the " father" and not the "mother" . If we were
followers of " judaism" this might have had some weight .

We do not believe that the companions of the prophet were " infallible" as well
they were all human beings and could have made mistakes . What we do
is give them the benefit of " doubt" because they were close companions of
the prophet and were instrumental in the earlier " struggles" of islam

If the prophet would have said something " bad" about them then only
could there be a reason to belive otherwise

As per your argument regarding " qadeer khum" if it was that clear then why would
there be division amongst the muslim "ummah" and dont try to convince me
that the smartest " 10 odd percent intellectuals" understood this perfectly and the
other " naive" 90% could not understand what the prophet had said

this in itself creates enough " doubt" that prophet had not chosen ali to be the
next caliph . Not to mention that those odd "10% intellects" betrayed hazrat ali on
numerous occasions and then they betrayed imam hussain again leading to the
tragic kerbala incident . Hazrat ali knew that he could not trsut the people on his
side because they were traitors and favouring him merely for personal gains

On one hand those people were so smart that they deciphered what the
other 90% couldnt and then if they had the divine knowledge why did
they betray hazrat ali and imam hussein

it is clear that these people wanted fitna

as far as history goes beyond that it was a power struggle to say the least
every one wanted power . even the abbasid dynasty which was started
by the blood uncle abbas of the prophet were not very good with the later
imams . clearly states that they dint acknowledge any divine power or
authority .

look at it from this perspective .. the imam wanted to be leaders and so did
their counter parts .. it was only power struggle . look at the agha khani belief
they believe in divineness and agha khan has changed all ritual of prayers
you can pay money and be a saint .. all your sins are washed after paying money
so the rich people can get away with anything is this " justice"

I simply dont buy the argument of "infallibilty" If the father is a priest it doesnt
mean that his " son" will be a presit as well

I am not referring this to the imams naoozubillah .. just a way of thinking
I respect the imams a lot but do not belive in the concept of infallibility through generations



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February 09, 2010
also known as .: RE: zulfiqar
Zulfiqar, your idea that the majority cannot go astray is against the Quran. The quran says over and over "aksarahum la yalamoon" (the majority do not know). The majority is usually wrong. When Musa (as) went up on the mountain, how many people from Bani Israel followed him? Musa (as) had split the Red Sea, thrown his stick turning it into a snake, put his hand in his shirt so that it glowed white, and brought food from heaven when the people would starve, yet the people still turned away. The Quran has these stories for a reason, so that Muslims should learn. Allah's proof is on us for a reason.

Regarding the issue of infallibility, the Quran says it: "Allah wants to keep from you Ahlul-Bait every sort of impurity, and purify you a thorough purification" (33:33). If this is not infallibility, then what is. We do not believe in the infallibility due to hereditary reasons but because the Quran says the Ahlul-Bait are infallible.

Regarding the issue of mawla, it is clear that this word means "authority" and not "friend". The Prophet said "am I not the highest in authority amongst you" (a lustoo awlaa bil mumineena anfusahum?") to his companions. It was clear he was referring to the verse in the Quran "The prophet is the highest in authority from amongst you" (an nabi awla bil mumineen min anfusihim). Everyone said "yes" that he was awla, the highest in authority. Then the prophet said, for whoever I am his mawla, Ali is his mawla. Remember this is on the way back from hajj. The Prophet was addressing a huge crowd and he said it for a good reason, not just to establish the goodness of Ali. Ali's goodness was known, it did not need further reinforcement.

The Imams did not engage in "power struggle". They were given their haqq by Allah. Others came and stole their rights and oppressed them. Take care that you do not be sympathetic to those who fought against Allah's representative and became destroyed as a result!
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February 09, 2010
Ali Ch: Unity
Dear brothers and sisters in Islam, this subject is very difficult to understand and comprehend in many ways. Firstly, we as Muslims should understand that both sides have interesting opinions and beliefs on this subject.

We Shia intellectuals and learned men should not be accusing our Sunni brothers leaders (Abu Bark ra. & Umar ra. of being allies of Iblees) If they were in fact allies of Iblees, Imam Ali as. would never have pledged allegiance to them for any reason. I do accept the fact the Imam Ali as. delayed in pledging allegiance to Abu Bark ra. and also believe there was wisdom behind doing so. Regardless of that, Abu Bakr did have leadership qualities that Imam Ali as. recognized to be beneficial for the ummah. And he was one of the select few that Imam Ali as. would have even contemplated giving up Khalifa for. If Imam Ali as. accepted them as khalifa's then me to being Shia of Ali have no choice but to accept them as my khalifa's. (may Allah swt be pleased with them)

Saying that brothers, our Sunni brothers should understand that the Prophet sws. family (Ahlul bayt) are the most loved and dear to the prophet above everyone else who surrounded him. Not to say the companion were not close; they were extremely close to the Prophet sws. We as Shia's believe that Imam Ali as. was in fact family and not a companion, thus elevating him above the companions in terms of love from the Prophet sws. and wisdom in the religion. Nevertheless, i do accept the appointing of Imam Ali as. from the Prophet Muhammed sws. and recognize the speech of Ghadeer to be authentic in that 'mawla' meant leader/successor.

In regards to the issue of infallibility, the Quran says it: "Allah wants to keep from you Ahlul-Bait every sort of impurity, and purify you a thorough purification" (33:33). this pertains to the fact that due to Allah swt. act of purification, the Prophet sws. household had all abilities of 'sinning' removed.

Shia brothers ! with regard to the Mother of the Believers Aisha ra. we as muslims should hold her in the highest regard and speak of her the same way Imam Ali as. spoke to her at all times of his life. You say that Allah swt. gave us examples in the Quran how other Prophets wives have gone astray and simulate it to Aisha ra. But in the case of Prophet Muhammad sws. His wives were given the honorable rank from Allah swt. of being 'Mother's of the Believers' unlike any other women in history. True Shia ulama are stressing this fact and understand that we as Muslims must hold her in this high rank that Allah swt. gave to her, and speak nothing but great attributes to her like Imam ali as. if we claim to be followers of him.

may Allah swt forgive me if anything i said is wrong of if i offended anyone. We live in a time where we are being humiliated for believing in Allah and His Messenger (doesnt matter if you are Sunni or Shia) We must learn to respect one another and sometimes 'agree to disagree' on certain topics in order to maintain the dignity of our fellow brother.

May the best Dahwa win. Salamu Alakum wa Rahmatalahi wa barakatu ....
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February 09, 2010
also known as .: Nifaq
The above is nothing but hypocrisy. Imam Ali never accepted that anyone should be khalifa ahead of him and to say so is to sweep the most problematic issue that afflicts the Muslims under the carpet.

Furthermore, if you read Surah Tahrim, the Prophet was so angry with Ayesha and Hafsa that he wanted to divorce them! He did not do so only because divorce is looked down on in Islam and to be patient is better. Being mother of the believers only means that the believers are not allowed to marry these women, as though they were their mothers. Ayesha in particular waged war against Imam Ali and did not allow Imam Hasan to be buried near the Prophet out of jealousy. She used to look for excuses to fight with Ahlul-Bait! How bad is this? The wives of the Prophet are told specifically in the Quran that they are not to leave their houses. Yet what did Ayesha do? She not only left her house, she let her status become a pawn in the hands of others due to her negligence of the Quran!

It is clear what we should think of such persons. Such persons should never be role models for us. Only the Prophet and his Ahlul-Bait (as) should be our guides, not a group of sinners.
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February 09, 2010
also known as .: PS
PS: my comment was directed towards Ali Ch, not the author of the article.
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February 09, 2010
zulfiqar: ...
also known as .: RE: zulfiqar
Zulfiqar, your idea that the majority cannot go astray is against the Quran. The quran says over and over "aksarahum la yalamoon" (the majority do not know). The majority is usually wrong. When Musa (as) went up on the mountain, how many people from Bani Israel followed him? Musa (as) had split the Red Sea, thrown his stick turning it into a snake, put his hand in his shirt so that it glowed white, and brought food from heaven when the people would starve, yet the people still turned away. The Quran has these stories for a reason, so that Muslims should learn. Allah's proof is on us for a reason.

" ARE YOU TRYING TO IMPLY THAT THE QURAN WARNS THE MUSLIMS
NOT TO FOLLOW THE " MAJORITY" BUT TO BE A " MINORITY" . JUST CONSIDER IF YOU STARTED CIRCULATING THIS ARTICLE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE STARTED BELIEVING YOU AND CONVERTED THE " MINORITY" TO " MAJORITY" ACCORDING TO THE QURAN THE NEW " MAJORITY: WOULD BE WRONG ?

YOU ARE ACTING AS IF GOD IS PLAYING A CONSPIRACY THEORY AND ONLY THE SELECTED FEW INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE THAT ESTEEMED ABILITY TO COMPREHEND THINGS WILL " GAIN: AND THE REST WILL BE DESTROYED" BECAUSE GOD DID NOT MAKE THEM AS SMART AS THEIR COUNTERPARTS ?

WILL ALL THE JEWS , HINDUS, CHRISTIANS BURN IN HELL FOR EVER AND ALL THE SUNNIS , ZAIDIS , AGHA KHANIS ETC ,,BUT THE SUPREME RACE OF MANKIND THE " SHIA" WILL GO TO HEAVEN

WELL RELIGION IS ONLY FAITH .. WE DONT EVEN KNOW FOR A FACT IF THERE IS " HELL" OR " HEAVEN" NO ONE CAME BACK FROM HIS GRAVE AND EVER TESTIFY TO TH
AT .

COMING BACK TO THE POINT .. WHY DID THE SO CALLED " MINORITY OF BORN SUPREMACISTS WITH DIVINE KNOWLEDGE" DESERT HAZRAT ALI AND IMAM HUSSAINM
HISTORY STATES THAT ..

WHY DINT THE ZAIDIS HATE OMER AND ABU BAKR ? THEY WERE ALSO THE FOLLOWERS OF HAZRAT ALI ? WHY DID THEY REFRAIN FROM ABUSUING THE FIRST 2 CALIPHS? DTHEY WERE WITH IMAM ZAINUL ABIDEEN ETC .. WELL I WAS NOT THERE TO WITNESS THESE ACCOUNTS SO CANT CREDIT OR DIS CREIT ANY ONE

THE BIGGST PROBLEM IS THE " HADITH" MANY OF THEM CONTRADIT EACH OTHER ..THEY CANT ALL BE TRUE


Regarding the issue of infallibility, the Quran says it: "Allah wants to keep from you Ahlul-Bait every sort of impurity, and purify you a thorough purification" (33:33). If this is not infallibility, then what is. We do not believe in the infallibility due to hereditary reasons but because the Quran says the Ahlul-Bait are infallible . I do respect the status of ahle bait but dont think they were infallible . i am sure most of the people dont belive in their infallibility becuse if that was the case we would never had any fitnas ... every one would have known from the word go to follow them . i am not trying to defend yazid .. i hate him for what he did to imam hussain

" I DONT BELIVE IN INFALLIBILITY ! IF THE ERLIER PEOPLE OF YOUR GENERAION WOULD HAVE HAD A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION WITH THEIR COUNTERPARTS ..YOU WOULD HAVE BEE FOLLOWING THE AGHA KHAN TODAY AND WOULD HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE 21ST CENTURY RELIGION "


Regarding the issue of mawla, it is clear that this word means "authority" and not "friend". The Prophet said "am I not the highest in authority amongst you" (a lustoo awlaa bil mumineena anfusahum?") to his companions. It was clear he was referring to the verse in the Quran "The prophet is the highest in authority from amongst you" (an nabi awla bil mumineen min anfusihim). Everyone said "yes" that he was awla, the highest in authority. Then the prophet said, for whoever I am his mawla, Ali is his mawla. Remember this is on the way back from hajj. The Prophet was addressing a huge crowd and he said it for a good reason, not just to establish the goodness of Ali. Ali's goodness was known, it did not need further reinforcement

" I CAN ALSO SAY THAT PROPHET GAVE HAZRAT ABU BAKR THE HIGH STATUS OF BEING THE IMAM OF THE WHOLE MUSLIM UMMAH AND CLAIM THAT SUCH A HIGH AUTHORITY COULD ONLY BE GIVEN AS A SIGN THAT HE WAS GG TO BE HIS SUCCESSOR .

THIS WOULD PROVE NOTHING AND THE SAME APPLIES TO PROPHET SAYING MAWLA AS MOST OF THE PEOPLE WERE NOT SURE ABOUT IT AND THAT IS ENOUGH " DOUBT: AND THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO CLAIM THAT ..DESERTED HIM ALL THE WAY ..DOESN T MAKE SENSE
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